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Online Casinos Vs. Brick and Mortar
We’ve been hearing reports about the Las Vegas Casinos complaining about their decline in revenue due to the terrible US economy and it just got me thinking about the complete lack of vision by US leaders to still try and pass laws making it illegal for their tax paying citizens to gamble from the comforts of their own home.
The thing about going to a brick and mortar casino (if you don’t live near one) is the time and costs to get there. Once there you’re usually spending at least a weekend and that usually means lots of time spent at the tables and or slot machines. Hotel costs, airline and fuel prices don’t help either. Don’t get me wrong, I love to take a trip to Vegas when I can but I also like to relax in the evening after work and try out some new Microgaming slot machines with out being bothered by anyone and not waiting for my favorite machine to become available. And the most important thing for me is I don’t want to play for hours. I usually just play for a half an hour and that’s good enough for me.
It just amazes me with all the finacial struggles the US is going through that they wouldn’t want a part of a billion dollar industry. But after just typing that sentence it reminds me of what it’s really about. States protecting their own gambling and lottery interests (Kentucky, Washington State etc.) and not wanting their citizens spending money that they see none of. Why haven’t those brick and mortar casinos fought for online casinos that they control and pay taxes on? Short sighted polictians I suppose.
Well at least (for now) I can still login to my favorite casinos and play a few hands of blackjack and try my luck at the slots. Freedom is getting pretty thin around the world so who knows what tomorrow will bring.
Rick
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Kentucky wants to know who owns those 141 casino domain names
FRANKFORT — Kentucky wants to know who owns those 141 domain names for Internet gambling services.
But at a hearing Friday afternoon in Judge Thomas Wingate’s Franklin Circuit Courtroom attorneys representing those entities steadfastly declined to reveal the names of their clients beyond the domain name itself.
Wingate gave attorneys for the gambling sites seven days to file briefs on a host of legal issues involving standing, jurisdiction and property rights before he conducts another hearing at which he could allow the state to forfeit the names.
Robert Foote, a Chicago attorney representing the state, told Wingate “no one has standing” to appear before the court until a person or corporation is named.
“A domain name has no right to have a lawyer, only a corporation or person can have a lawyer,” Foote said. “And no one here is going to tell you they represent anyone.”
William Johnson said he was there representing seven clients and Alice Grimes said she represents goldencasino.com. But they – and other attorneys – declined to say who owned those names.
Instead they argued the action against 141 domain names took place “under cover” and with no notice to their clients. They sought a continuation to brief Wingate on matters of law which they contended will demonstrate the court has no jurisdiction and seeking to dismiss the action.
Last week, Gov. Steve Beshear and Justice Cabinet Secretary J. Michael Brown announced Wingate had granted them the right to seize the 141 domain names through which Kentuckians engaged in illegal gambling online. They said “tens of millions of dollars” were flowing out of Kentucky without regulation or taxation and the illegal gambling damaged legal gambling in the state such as horse racing and the lottery. Friday’s hearing originally was to determine whether the state could forfeit those names, but Wingate didn’t rule on that.
Foote said the state is seeking two things: agreement by owners of the domain names to block access from the state of Kentucky and compensation for previous gambling activity from Kentucky. He said the state would not shut down domain names of any person or corporation willing to appear and claim ownership of the names while the two sides “work out a deal.”
Two trade association groups – Poker Players Alliance and Interactive Media Gaming Council – filed friend of the court briefs opposing the state’s action.
Brown said the state’s goal is to stop the activity in Kentucky and he used the only avenue available to him – a 1974 Kentucky law that allows the state to seize illegal gambling “devices.” The state contends the domain names constitute gambling devices.
Foote said at least one site has already violated Wingate’s order giving the state control of the domain names until he rules on forfeiture and the gambling entities will use the extra time to circumvent the order. Jennifer Brislin, spokeswoman for the cabinet, said at least one site has shut down access from Kentucky.
Brown said he is not attempting to shut down the sites entirely but to block access from Kentucky. And he said the state wants any compensation to which it’s legally entitled.
Wingate let stand his seizure order and told attorneys for the domain names, “You are going to have to eventually pony up and say who these people are.”
RONNIE ELLIS writes for CNHI News Service and is based in Frankfort. He can be reached by e-mail at rellis@cnhi.com.
Kentucky Online Gambling Domain Hearing Reconvenes October 7
The Commonwealth of Kentucky will be in court again October 7 to face off against the online gambling industry.
Kentucky received court permission to seize 141 gambling Web sites’ domain names as it tries to put them out of business there. Gov. Steve Beshear (D) said at a press conference that the gambling-friendly state is taking “unprecedented action” against sites that “siphon off money from regulated and legal games,” such as the state lottery and thoroughbred racing. Kentucky has lost “tens of millions” to unlicensed gambling, he said.
But the online gambling industry was well represented in numbers and quality of its legal counsel.
The Interactive Media Entertainment & Gaming Association (iMEGA.org) has been granted standing and issued a Motion to Dismiss.
“I have a good feeling about our Motion,” expressed Edward Leyden, President of iMEGA, who was on hand during Friday‘s postponed hearing. “County Judge Thomas Wingate is a very straight forward common sense judge and a thoughtful guy so we are in good hands.”
The commonwealth has asserted their case under a statute that makes it illegal from running gambling operations within the state that makes mention of “gambling devices” but does not implicitly discuss gambling-related domains.
The prosecution was also adamant in hectoring any lawyer to identify their clients. With iMEGA’s standing in the Federal Court, they will not be required to do so. iMEGA is recognized under the Constitution and under Washington Apple Advertisers vs. Hunt as a trade organization that does not require it to name the identities of individual members or companies.
Several attorneys for various registrars, including the registrar for GoldenCasino.com, were present. GoldenCasino.com’s domain name was among a handful seized by the commonwealth. The prosecution also wanted guarantees that clients (domain name holders) would not switch to new URL’s prior to October 7. GoldenCasino.com has since switched over to NewGoldenCasino.com. Other online gambling websites have told Gambling911.com that they are already in the process of reserving new domains. None of the attorneys present were willing to guarantee such a thing.
“Registrars are caught in the middle here,” Leyden points out. “On one hand they are concerned that the commonwealth will come after them. On the other hand they are concerned that the contract party will come after them seeking significant damages.”
Also on hand were attorneys for the Poker Players Alliance and the Internet Gaming Counsel.
Kentucky state news organizations were also covering Friday’s hearing.
“The common sense people of Kentucky who respect their rights will be following this case closely,” Leyden told one of the local ABC news affiliates.
iplaybingo’s BAD customer service
We received this email yesterday from a (potential) player at iplaybingo.com. Sounds like iplaybingo doesn’t appreciate their paying customers…
Hi, I have a issue with a bingo site. I haven’t deposited, but i tried and when there was a problem they just wouldn’t help me out. The site is iplaybingo.com. Here’s the story. I tried to deposit using a debit mastercard, it for some reason was declined by there processor. So i went to the mastercards website and there was no problem on there end. Infact the money was there pending for the 77.79 US. So they told me to go back to the bingo site and tell them to call us. Well i did that and they refused to do so. So now my money is pending at the mastercard for 7 day. It won’t be credited back to me until the merchant take it or the 7 days of pending is up. I asked iplaybingo to call them to release my money back to me concerting it was there fault it didn’t go threw. There’s nothing wrong with the card because right after that i used the rest on a other bingo site and i had no problems at all. I just want them to call the mastercard to get my money released back to me. I feel the customer service there was horrible and it was there fault so they need to rectify this matter. Thanks
Kentucks Seizes 141 Gambling Domain Names
The Commonwealth of Kentucky has issued a seize order to have 141 domain names taken from their current registrants. The seizure was placed because the “domains were being used in connection with illegal gambling activity.”
There were a number of popular gambling sites listed for seizure including PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, BodogLife.com, DoylesRoom.com among hundreds of other gaming sites. The domain names were to be immediately transferred to an account of the Commonwealth of Kentucky, although the websites will continue to run as usual until a court hearing later this month.
It seems highly unlikely this move will withstand legal challenge in court, but if it does it opens the door to all kinds of strange possibilities. If any state can claim any domains that don’t abide by local laws, it seems inevitable that these types of websites will simply be moved to a foreign registrar while remaining as profitable as ever.
Another interesting point is that some of the domains are simply parked websites with no recent history of taking any bets.
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People Turning To Gambling To Relieve Economic Stress
As the United States government crumbles, more and more people are turning to one particular industry to relieve stress, The gambling industry may be the beneficiaries of the tough economy.
It is not that casino are making a killing these days. They are, however, providing the emotional relief that so many Americans are currently looking for.
While person after person are losing their jobs, the casinos are still there for support. It is not necessarily the case that people are going to the casinos to lose whatever money they have left. It is actually quite the opposite.
While the American government is busy gambling many families’ future by their insistence on spending frivolously, many people have remained calm. They have turned to leisure gambling to get away from the stresses the government has brought upon them.
For poker players, online relief may soon be coming as well. Representative Barney Frank finally succeeded in getting a Bill passed in the House Financial Services Committee that will put an end to the gray area of online poker playing. If approved, poker players would once again be free to enjoy their free time playing poker online without threat of government intervention.
While the economy continues to fall apart, gambling continues on, and that is a good thing for many Americans.
House committee votes to clarify UIGEA
The movement to regulate online gaming in the U.S. scored its first legislative victory since the passage of the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (UIGEA) when The House Financial Services Committee passed Payment Systems Protection Act (PSPA) by a 30-19 vote Tuesday. A similar measure failed to make it out of committee two months ago after a 32-32 vote.
The new bill, sponsored by Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.) and Rep Peter King (R-NY), calls on the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department to draft and implement regulations that prevent sports betting transactions from being processed within 60 days of the bill becoming law. But it halts the development of any regulations beyond sports betting until a session that involves an administrative law judge determines exactly what is legal and illegal Internet gambling. The bill also requires the Treasury Department to create and maintain a list of unlawful Internet gambling businesses, and mandates that no transactions can be blocked if a company is not on the list.
“Under this bill, at least the banks will know what is and isn’t illegal,” Frank said at the markup hearing. “We’re asking the Treasury Department to give them a list.”
Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-AL) led the opposition to the bill, and managed to force a recorded vote after the measure had easily passed by voice vote.
“I’m disappointed that we’re marking up another bill designed to impede the enforcement of the UIGEA,” Bachus said. “This legislation (UIGEA) is necessary because Internet gambling regulations can not work like casino regulations.” Bachus also told the committee that the professional sports leagues continued to oppose the delay in implementing UIGEA regulations, and that struck a nerve with some of the legislators at the hearing.
“I’m puzzled by pro sports opposition to this,” said Rep. William Clay (D-MO). “I’m trying to find out the difference between betting at Caesars or the Tropicana in Vegas and betting on the Internet.”
Clay also took exception to the professional sports leagues opposing the PSPA even though the bill allows for immediate implementation of regulation that eliminate sports betting transactions.
“If that doesn’t satisfy major league sports, nothing else will,” Clay said.
Frank was also disappointed by the stance of America’s professional sports leagues.
“I don’t see why the sports leagues get to tell people what to do,” Frank said.
“How people spend their leisure time should be neither made illegal or encouraged.”
The passage of the bill by the House Financial Services Committee drew immediate praise from the Poker Players Alliance (PPA).
“The PPA is pleased that the House Financial Services Committee today recognized the need to provide necessary clarification to what constitutes ‘unlawful Internet gambling’ under the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (UIGEA) by passing H.R. 6870,” said PPA chairman and former Senator Alfonse D’Amato.
“Even those who oppose internet gambling should applaud the passage of this legislation as it provides the most realistic opportunity to block truly unlawful internet gambling transactions.”
Iowa lawmakers propose gambling instead of smoking in bars
Iowa has a law that doesn’t allow smoking in public places including bars. Oh, except in the state owned casinos that is.
Bar owners across the state have been complaining about the double standerd and now Iowa Representative Brian Quirk is proposing that Iowa allow gambling in bars to help bring back the patrons. Quirk believes that the bar owners have a legit gripe against the state and by offering gamblers to the bar hoppers he believes that this will help even the playing field between the bar owners and the state.
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Barney Frank Introduces Newer Version of Gambling Bill
Congressman Barney Frank reintroduced his Payments System Protection Act of 2008 this week. He now intends it to formalize a process for defining illegal online gambling, rather than to fulfill its original purpose of preventing the implementation of the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (UIGEA).
Frank is rightfully telling congress that the UIGEA law is irresponsible and puts too much pressure on the banks to police online payment processing at a time where U.S. banks are under enough stress.
The bill will be heard on Tuesday the 16th and we will post the results on the outcome.
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